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December 24, 2024 • 2hr 44min
#2246 - James Fox
The Joe Rogan Experience
James Fox is a UFO investigator and documentary filmmaker whose new film "The Program" examines the government's handling of the UFO/UAP phenomenon. The conversation covers recent UAP activity, historical cases, and the current state of disclosure efforts.
#2246 - James Fox
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Key Takeaways
- Recent UAP/Drone Activity: Multiple sightings of large drone-like objects reported across the East Coast, particularly in New Jersey, with objects described as SUV-sized and capable of extended loiter times
- Government Response: Officials have acknowledged the sightings but provided limited information, leading to speculation about their origin and purpose
- Historical Context: Discussion of significant historical UFO cases including the Phoenix Lights (1997), Vandenberg AFB incidents (2003), and the Calvine Photo (1990)
- Disclosure Progress: Three congressional hearings on UAPs in recent years represent unprecedented movement toward government transparency on the topic
- Technology Implications: If accounts of UAP capabilities are accurate, they suggest technology far beyond current human capabilities, particularly regarding propulsion systems
Introduction
James Fox is a UFO investigator and documentary filmmaker whose new film "The Program" examines the government's handling of the UFO/UAP phenomenon. The conversation covers recent UAP activity, historical cases, and the current state of disclosure efforts.
Topics Discussed
Current UAP/Drone Activity (0:02:49)
- Multiple locations reporting sightings: New Jersey, Ohio, Florida, California, and military installations including Wright-Patterson AFB
- Object characteristics:
- Size comparable to SUVs
- Extended loiter times (5+ hours)
- Ability to go dark when approached
- Difficult to track on various sensor systems
- "About 50 of them coming in off the ocean" - Christopher Mellon's report on recent activity
Vandenberg Air Force Base Incidents (0:09:58)
- Technical Sergeant Jeffrey Nusiatetelli's testimony:
- Multiple UAP incursions in 2003-2005
- Objects included football field-sized craft
- Silent operation with no visible propulsion
- Multiple military witnesses willing to testify under oath
- Official Air Force records retained documenting events
The Calvine Photograph Case (0:58:54)
- Background:
- Taken in Scotland, 1990
- Shows diamond-shaped craft with military jet for reference
- Original witnesses were poachers who photographed object
- Government response:
- MOD took control of investigation
- Most prints confiscated
- Witnesses reportedly intimidated and disappeared
- One print survived through RAF press officer Craig Lindsay
Phoenix Lights Discussion (1:50:31)
- March 13, 1997 incident:
- Massive craft witnessed across Arizona
- Governor Fife Symington initially mocked incident but later admitted seeing it
- Military jets reportedly scrambled to intercept
- Thousands of witnesses across multiple locations
- Military flares dropped later possibly as diversion tactic
Current Government Investigations (2:03:50)
- Recent progress:
- Three congressional hearings in past three years
- Bipartisan support for investigation
- Creation of AARO (All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office)
- Challenges:
- DOD control over information release
- Compartmentalization of programs
- Whistleblower protection concerns
Technology and Physics Implications (2:26:44)
- Advanced propulsion theories:
- Gravity manipulation
- Space-time folding capabilities
- Trans-medium travel possibilities
- Discussion of Bob Lazar's claims about gravity drives
- Implications of observed capabilities beyond current human technology
Historical Context and Ancient Reports (2:41:35)
- Ancient accounts:
- Bhagavad Gita references
- Biblical accounts (Ezekiel)
- Aboriginal cave art showing similar beings
- Consistency of descriptions across cultures and time periods
Conclusion
The conversation highlights the current unprecedented level of official acknowledgment and investigation of the UAP phenomenon, while emphasizing the many questions that remain unanswered. Fox's work documenting these cases and the government's handling of them provides important context for understanding current events and their potential implications.
The recent wave of drone/UAP sightings across the East Coast represents a significant development that has caught the attention of officials and the public alike. While the nature and origin of these objects remain unclear, the incident has added urgency to calls for greater government transparency on the topic.
